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18 thoughts on “Right to repair or right to own???”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MisterPersuasion says:

    It's getting to the point where you won't own anything. You'll just pay for use of the device. Socialism at it's best. But then remember the days of Ma Bell. You didn't own your phone then either. You simply leased it.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Craig C says:

    Having worked in the cellular industry since 1998, we've seen the technology change resulting in phones that are no longer able to make calls, but they're not completely useless. I just upgraded to the iPhone 13 (ex-employees are not eligible for the latest phones like the iPhone 14 — they say customers come first, understandably so). But, I can still get on the internet with my old Motorola smart phone. Many of the apps still work — calendar, calculator, some games, etc. So, I'll keep it for those reasons. By the way, when I first hired in, I was given a brand new Star-Tac. Loved that phone.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KatjaPurrs says:

    Fran, i think what you got here is a need for Right to Clickity-Clack Keyboards. 😆

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KatjaPurrs says:

    Other things that don't work without an external service: Power tools (you need electricity service). Cars (you need gas service). Horses you needed feed service, vet service, and probably a bunch of other equine services i don't know about since i've never owned a horse. Envelopes would be useless without mail service.
    You're leasing the service. Technically you can still use the phone on wifi and send/receive calls/text over google voice or signal. You could reuse it as a touchscreen Octoprint 3d printer controller. You could use it as a remote control for something or other. You could mount it over the kitchen trash can and use it to scan the barcode on your empty grocery packages before you toss'em and fill in a shopping list. It's not a dead brick, it's just a little pocket computer thing waiting to find a new use in some project.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Doug Browning says:

    Back in the days when the phone was a box hung on the wall, it was owned by the phone company, and you payed so much a month to have it, plus the service fee and long distance tolls. The phone company also owned all the phone wires and jacks in your house. It took government regulations to change all that.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars aldntn says:

    My daughter's phone became obsolete because it wasn't 5G (Cricket). Now it sports a Google Fi SIM. I never had a phone to fail.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jay D says:

    Phones are considered goods, same as a computer; to try to eschew legal clauses in the DMCA or even serializing components such that is happening, is against the spirit the amended bill of 2021;

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gregory Thomas says:

    I miss my Nokia phone so much…I could text while doing many other things at the same time because it had actual button keys…and the 5 had the nipple to text without looking at it.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Morgan says:

    Yeah, I was using a Nokia 3350 for YEARS, only reason I stopped using it was when they shut down the last 2G network in Australia.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars lizardbyte says:

    This is déjà vu all over again! back in the day you never really owned your phone you were renting it from Ma Bell!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Anthony X says:

    You own the device. You don't own the SIM, which is what grants you access to the cell network, and yes, your device is useless as a phone if it doesn't support the whatever-G bands/protocols available on the nearby cell towers. It's still useful as a smart device for anything local to the device or on WiFi. Obsoleting analog, 2G, etc. is all about managing very limited slices of a very congested RF spectrum, which even your cell provider doesn't own (it's used under license from your national government). There is constantly rising demand for higher throughput for ever more devices, so older and less efficient schemes are forced to give way to newer ones. When you buy your device, it may be yours forever, and may remain fully functional for a decade or more, but it will become obsolete at some point. Your PC is no different. You could still use a 1995-vintage PC but why would you want to when something newer will be orders of magnitude faster and have vastly more storage? You are not being coerced away from your beloved phone at the whim of an unsympathetic cell provider; it is the pressure of millions of people thirsting for ever higher bandwidth services on ever more devices; blame them.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars P.M. Laberge says:

    Planned Obsolescence.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BJS 2022 says:

    No, Fran, Apple did not downgrade the performance to get people to buy a new phone. They did it because people with certain older models that had aged batteries would have experienced a malfunction (freezing?). If they didn’t do that the remedy was to replace the battery so by slowing down the phone they actually allowed people to continue using their old phone with a worn battery instead of having to replace the battery or buy a new phone.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Raul Guerrero G says:

    Planned obsolence should be illegal.
    Anyway did you hear about the earthquakes in México? Look It up it's interesting stuff

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ken Steiger says:

    Don't even get me started on Adobe…

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars dezza72 says:

    Everyone has the the right to attempt to repair on something that they own. However many companies are implementing measures that render devices inoperable unless they have access to that companies software, which is required to enable replacement of components.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars marmaly says:

    Love the keyboard phone form factor. Had them for years and still miss it.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars says:

    I would say the move to throttle performance was not specifically to get people to purchase new devices, it literally prevented unexpected shutdowns of the units in question when users got 4+ years out of their units. Of course, not understanding what is occurring “muh laggy fone needa be replaced” being touted every day vs the logical answer is “yes please throttle it so it doesn’t have issues, I will replace the battery myself” but no one is as intelligent as us.

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