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Enjoy this 16mm film from my collection with all of the redacted audio that SONY claims complete ownership of, both retroactively and in perpetuity. Long live SONY!
American Civil Defense goes total Koyaanisqatsi - Ride the briny foam afloat on the sea of sewage in this bleak 16mm reel which propels you to a time after everything has died... everything that is except for one very grim old man in an ominous black cloak. Scary! I transferred this 16mm reel with my Eiki Telecine.
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15 thoughts on “Sony owns the universe”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Teukka72 says:

    Given that it is the-mega-coproration-that-must-not-be-named, it does not surprise me. They've been caught before both making copyright claims on stuff which clearly isn't theirs, as well as using other peoples copyrighted material without permission (and if I don't misremember with explicit prohibition from owners beforehand). That time, it ended with a multi-million-$ settlement or judgement.
    And people why I don't buy goods touched by the-mega-coproration-that-must-not-be-named unless I really have to…

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Renato Pierri says:

    Such copy right claims made me remove almost all musics from my videos, including that ones in public domain. Jealous people trying to make a boring world. That is what I think… to myself.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Real life Bambi: 🦌 at the Farm says:

    I had a video flagged because I dared to use natural sound from a trail cam of deer walking around with birds chirping in the background. Wasn't Sony, though. Disputing it, will probably lose and POOF! Bye bye channel. I'd say 👍.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DahVoozel says:

    The worst part is the legal merry-go-round you have to deal with to get relief, even if it is your own original production. Each party poi ting at some else and claiming the other party is the legally culpable one.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Allan Fulton says:

    This is ridiculous. Someone needs to sue Sony and YouTube. This is ridiculous. Maybe the government who actually owns this video should fine Sony and YouTube. How many poor content creators have this problem it's just so wrong.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jrrarglblarg says:

    The original film was shot in 16mm silent and much of the footage was probably the film equivalent of “stock images.” The entire soundscape was built from public domain sound effects records. Unless Sony can demonstrate ownership of the exact sound effects library from the 1960s that this film used they’re lying. 🤬🤬🤬

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Spider Pickle says:

    The irony is thick on this one.
    …a huge multinational conglomerate claiming false ownership over a public video made by the Federal government about ills caused by broken capitalism.🙃

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Montgomery says:

    You would have to take Sony to court. They know that is expensive and expect their standing in the music industry will intimidate you.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dave's Nature Productions says:

    If wind is being clamed and sound of water, then I guess I'll be screwed then as much of the videos I am working on have a lot of wind sound in them and some with rushing water. Seriously though that is messed up and should not be allowed to happen, especially when the claimant's claim is wrong and baseless and it should be up to them to prove the claim if they think its true and not just be ruled in their favour without any proof they do indeed on the rights to the content. That legally wouldn't be allowed to happen, so it shouldn't be allowed to happen here. YouTubes copyright system needs a major change to fix all of these claim issues.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fabio Gouveia says:

    I had the same issue with a film that was recorded by a friend and the sound of the sea with an aeroplane passing by that was live recorded was questioned by some "copyright owner". All went well in the end, but this means that they really algorithmically own the sounds of the world… unbelievable!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sjm4306 says:

    The entity filing the claim should not be the one reviewing appeals (this is a clear conflict of interest). Also there should be strict punishment for attempting to abuse the claim system with troll/frivolous claims such as a 3 strikes and the claimant's channel is deleted or their ip is logged and they cannot file another claim. This would greatly crack down on flagrant (infact illegal, as in knowingly claiming copyright you do not actually own is illegal) abuse of copyright claims.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tazz1669 says:

    Fran I had one of my uploads have a copyright claim which was not monitised, it was of a helicopter landing. I appealed it stating it was original and how could you copyright a helicopter landing sound. Never heard anything back. I would love that to go to court and for them to have to fight every helicopter owner for publicly "playing" the copyrighted sound. What a load of rubbish

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MLeoDaalder says:

    You'd almost want to track down the original copy-right holders and have them go after that band/Sony for infringing on their copy-right! If Sony is claiming the two are identical, then the band/Sony must have stolen it from the original copy-right holders!

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CuriousMarc says:

    YouTube copyright claim system is f’d up beyond belief. I got copyright claims for my own recording of my own piano playing by a famous pianist (actually not him, his recording agent). OK that time I got tickled pink. I got copyright claims for YouTube’s own license-free library tunes! I got copyright claims on a popular license free musical track, on top of which a troll had put his very bad voice, published it, and claimed it for himself, as well as all the videos that used that track. In each case, the claims were totally baseless, but the reviewer of the appeal is the crook that made the bad claim in the first place. Guess how that appeal is going to go.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars fluffy says:

    Youtube's copyright system is ridiculously broken and it gives way too much power to the alleged copyright holder. Why would Sony ever have any incentive to accept a dispute?

    One time I recorded myself playing Für Elise, pretty badly for that matter, and Sony copyright claimed it because it was close enough to one of their catalog recordings of the same song, which has been in the public domain for centuries. This was over on Twitch, though, and at least the Twitch counterclaim people actually have a clue about stuff.

    Another fun thing: being a registered ASCAP member, sometimes I'll post me recording my own songs on YouTube and then ASCAP copyright claims it on my behalf and I have to send them a letter saying, yeah, I am in fact the person you are claiming to represent, I gave myself permission to perform my own music that I wrote, thanks for looking out for me though.

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