It's Electrafyin'!!! Yes, I have done a lot of troubleshooting of circuits in my life, but never before had I ever had MY circuits troubleshot - until this week. In this video I give a little talk about my experience getting a set of EMG tests on my arms and hands with photos and a basic description of the processes involved. Enjoy!
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17 thoughts on “Troubleshooting fran”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Charles Kinzer says:

    There is a medical specialty called "Electrophysiology". The name says it all as it is the study of electrical circuitry in the body. A lady friend of mine was having heart "flutter" which was basically the heart going into self oscillation. She went to such a specialist and had a procedure where they make little cuts in the heart muscles. I talked to the specialist and said, "You are just cutting off the feedback paths." He said yes, but there is a lot of guesswork to it. While waiting, I studied a chart on the wall of various problematic heart rhythms. When he was done, he chatted with me awhile and I told him I had been studying that chart. He brought out some real charts to see if I could identify the problems. I got every one right. Even some that were complicated because they combined two issues. I credit my years of looking at oscilloscope waveforms for being able to "see" such things pretty easily. It's like when the game "Pong" first came out. I could beat anybody because I had the eye-hand coordination from years of turning that Y axis adjustment on scopes. Of course, my advantage didn't last long as others developed their skills and passed me by..

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars D Tibor says:

    Fran, the stimuli probably uses a current generator, so the voltage is highly variable depending on your skin resistance. Get similar sized probe and you can measure your skin resistance. If you know resistance and current, you have the voltage! No?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars slap_my_hand says:

    5:98 Would 60 V DC actually do anything if the skin is still intact?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Malcolm Marzo says:

    Fran, there is a whole field that has to do with how EMF interacts with our cells. A good start is "Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever." by Clinton Ober, Stephen Sinatra, MD. and Martin Zucker. There other books and many videos on the topic. Very basically the idea is that the electrical devices called cells operate at an optimum voltage of no more than 50 millivolts (0.50 mV). Average cellular voltage is 20 millivolts (0.20 mV). It is common for those who are around a lot of EMF from electronics and electrical devices to get body voltage up to 4 volts (4.0 V). Not good. This is nothing new: U.S. Navy research from the 1970's is often cited as early evidence. Lately, with the explosion of scientific research, instrumentation that reveals cellular effects, and the Internet the concept has become more widely known. It is easy (if you have electronics knowledge) to measure your body voltage with a common digital VOM. The simplest solution is to ground your body. This ranges from standing barefoot on grass (where you can see your voltage drop quickly) to grounding yourself inside (where you can see your body voltage drop rapidly. Ambient EMF , as a form of radiation, is an abstraction to most people. An old idea in science is: "You understand what you can measure." Fortunately this is simple with body voltage. I sent a PDF to your email that visualizes the procedure.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars metalmoto says:

    Had several EMG tests on my arms and even my legs once. Some people say it's moderately painful. Others say, it's not that bad. Depends of the technician or doctor doing the test. Some are a little rough on you. I've had the surgery done on my right hand over 10 years ago.
    Once the damage is done, there's no fixing it. The surgery just relieves the pain and numbness.
    I have severe nerve damage in both my hands and arms. Not shaking, but I can't feel the shape or position of small parts in my fingers anymore. Being a machinist, it makes my work more difficult, as now I have to look at the parts, to be sure they orientated in the correct position.
    Getting old sucks…

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Martin Hirsch says:

    A bit off topic, but related, my dog recently had pups and I stumbled on an article that discussed the development of the pups senses. It takes about 10 days before their eyes open but it takes several more days before they are able to actually focus, see and recognize objects. They are also born deaf and it takes several days before their hearing starts to function.

    And lastly, it takes as long as a month or more for their motor skills to develop, to control their muscles and what not. Reason being, it takes time for the melanin(?) sheaths to develop around their nerves, kind of like the outer insulating layer on an electrical wire.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RA Sellers says:

    I’m one of a tiny minority that has limited pain response.
    This means that I either don’t feel pain properly, or have the neural response that is called for when a pain-inducing event occurs.
    It is genetic, and so until halfway thru life, I had no idea that I’m not “ normal”.. and Carpal tunnel was what brought it to light.
    My hand specialist was delighted. He insisted that, before surgery, we study my situation, for a baseline. Little did I know that
    the extent of my “normal” was so rare. So..I agreed to participate in the study. I was sent to meet the “pain nazi”.
    Needles were progressively increased to the size of knitting needles. Voltage and amperage increased to the limits of the
    equipment, and safeties were disengaged. No matter what they did, they got zero response. I was amazed.
    I had no idea this was gonna go like this. During my work career, I became an electrician, and later abandoned the high
    voltage work, because I was electrocuted badly enough to burn tissue, several times, and didn’t notice until later.
    Not good. Anyway, the pain tech was progressively amazed. Her eyes grew wide as she applied ever more and I didn’t
    flinch. After forty minutes, she stopped ( with a variety of needles & wires attached ) , rolled her eyes, and says : “ you didn’t
    feel any of that”..? Well, “ Hell YES, I did”.. I explained. The process is different for me. I am aware of damage as it happens.
    The test concluded. The specialist performed the surgery. And going forward, I have experienced some symptoms similar
    to Fran’s. Sometimes I need to do a bit of Alpha-feedback meditation to calm my “nerves”, when I need a steady hand.
    It’s all in your head, Y’know…

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kb9drh says:

    I have had numerous EMGs in my life. They are not fun for the patient, but for the person giving the test it can be quite amusing. I had the tests for diagnosing spinal issues.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Victor Boucher says:

    Just wondering if you got plenty of Heathkits at Christmas …

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steven Ruhl says:

    I've had a few as part of my Charcot-Marie-Tooth diagnosis. My first time included a needle in the tongue also. That was not fun.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CheckMark says:

    Is this similar to a nerve conductivity test which I have had years ago?

    Cute hat your wearing!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Calhoun says:

    So I guess thy found that you need your Flux Capacitor replaced. LOL Great story. I had this done once and the Dr didn't tell me what to expect. After the first shock I said that that must have been about 20ma because it hurt a little. He looked at me your right and then asked how I would know such a thing, it's because of my background I told hem. He'd never had tested anyone before that knew about electricity.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scott O,Donahoe says:

    They shocked me into hell when I had to see if I had to have surgery on my my wrist,s !

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kits with Karen says:

    Very interesting talk maybe something that i should go through.I suffer with electric shocks in my right arm.Its like being hit with a cattle prod.I take 6pills a day to try and stop it.Every now and then my left arm would tremor.Thank heavens for gabapentin tablets.Yes a very interesting talk.👍🤗🐻

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joshua Penn says:

    I had this same test earlier this month to diagnose carpal tunnel syndrome (differential diagnosis to ensure it's not a pinched nerve from my neck.) The first test with the shocks, I could see the amplitude and timing of the "return" wave (I forget what it exactly was). I actually fell asleep while being shocked.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Christianhal9000 says:

    please switch on subtitles [CC] Closed captioning

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alan Canon says:

    You made an unpleasant thing into a learning and educational opportunity, for sure, though I'm sorry you had to endure the discomfort. Question about Fran's internal circuitry, does it operate using 6 or 12 volts on the filament, in case we need to order spares for her?

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